Debt Settlement bill needs to set rates: OAIRP

Debt Settlement bill needs to set rates: OAIRP – November 14, 2013

By Ashley Csanady
Administrator

A sweeping consumer protection bill would crack down on predatory debt settlement companies, but one arm of the industry worries the legislation as written doesn’t go far enough.

Bill 55, the stronger protection for Ontario consumers act1, is in the midst of a heated committee process, where its proposed measures to crack down on door-to-door water heater sales have stirred controversy2. Public hearings on the bill have wrapped up and clause-by-clause consideration of the bill began in committee last week. The debt-settlement schedules have already been passed with relatively few changes.

That concerns the Ontario Association of Insolvency and Restructuring Professionals (OAIRP), which has long supported the bill, but fears it will leave loopholes open for predatory practices.

The group of federally-licensed bankruptcy trustees is especially keen on changes to disallow settlement firms from charging upfront fees; however, it would have like to see the bill amended to legislate those rates and ensure they are calculated based on payments and not the client’s total debt.

“I just want it regulated at a reasonable percentage, based on what the other provinces (Manitoba and Alberta have similar legislation) have already done and based on payment, and not debt,” Jordan Rumanek, who sits on the OAIRP board, said in an interview. He added he is a huge proponent of the bill overall, it could just be stronger.

He’s a bankruptcy trustee who is federally licensed and whose practice falls under very stringent regulation. His and other trustees’ practices have long competed with the unlicensed, unregulated and sometimes unethical debt-settlement companies ─ which are also split on how to regulate the industry3.

Bill 55 intends to ban those firms from misleading advertising, collecting upfront fees and increase transparency for clients. Those are all good moves, but after committee failed to amend the bill to set rates for those fees, Rumanek said “I’m going to try again come regulation time.”

In essence, he’d like to see fees for debt settlement capped somewhere between 10 and 15 per cent, as is the case in other jurisdictions. And he wants to ensure that’s calculated based off the clients’ monthly payments and not total debt, as the latter would allow unethical firms to advise them to rack up their debt before settling it.

And the government plans to look into just that should the bill pass into law. Ministry of Consumer Services spokesperson Bryan Leblanc said regulation is a better place to set fees than legislation as the former is easier to amend quickly. He also said the discussion of how those rates would be calculated and based off what would be had when the time to draft those regulations rolls around.

References

  1. www.ontla.on.ca/web/committee-proceedings/committee_transcripts_details.do?locale=en&date=2013-11-06&parlcommid=8964&billid=2776&business=&documentid=27413
  2. www.qpbriefing.com/2013/10/31/water-heater-tensions-boil-over-at-committee
  3. www.qpbriefing.com/2013/06/06/debt-industry-split-over-consumer-protection-bill

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Debt industry split over consumer protection bill

Debt Protection Bill

Debt Industry Split Over Consumer Protection Bill

 

June 6, 2013 5:18 PM by Ashley Csanady

 

A major consumer protection bill before the legislature has garnered a lot of attention for its efforts to crack down on door-to-door water heater sales.

Bill 55, Stronger Protections for Ontario Consumers Act, was up for debate again Thursday morning as MPPs focused on door-to-door salespeople. (Tory MPP Frank Klees gave an impassioned speech defending the practice and detailing his own sales experience.)

But Bill 55 contains many other important consumer protections measures, including new restrictions on companies that offer debt settlement services, sometimes called credit counselling services. The industry seeks to help debtors get out from under their liabilities and come to an agreement with their creditors.

If passed, the legislation would require more disclosure, ban misleading advertising and put a cap on fees charged, among other changes. But the industry is divided over the bill, split along fault lines between the for-profit and not for- profit side of the marketplace.

Credit counsellors are often not-for-profit entities that receive some funding from charities such as the United Way and sometimes couple services with other forms of family, financial and personal counselling. Many of these groups are also closely tied to banks, credit card companies and other lending institutions. Board members from banks sometimes sit on these companies’ boards.

“These companies work for the credit card companies, not the consumer,” said Richard Cooper, chair of the Canadian Association of Debt Assistance, a recently created lobby group for the for-profit side of the industry.

He spoke at a Queen’s Park press conference on Wednesday to push for changes to Bill 55 to make sure the non-profit and for-profit sides of the industry are treated equally.

“Ontario shouldn’t repeat the mistake made in some other provinces whereby consumer protection legislation exempts credit counselling service providers,” Cooper said, referring to Alberta and Manitoba.

The province says it won’t make that mistake. “Bill 55, if passed, will regulate all companies or entities that offer debt settlement services in Ontario, whether they are a for-profit or a non-profit enterprise,” Bryan Leblanc, spokesman for Minister of Consumer Services Tracy MacCharles, said in an email.

Even if the law covers both sides, controversy and confusion remain about who does a better job for consumers.

CADA welcomes many of the proposed changes, Cooper said, adding that unscrupulous firms from south of the border have given his industry a bad name.

Because the non-profit industry is tied to creditors, Cooper said, the private companies are the only ones that really fight for consumers and often get them much better settlements. The proposed cap on upfront fees could gut his side of the industry if the bill isn’t amended, he warned.

Henrietta Ross, CEO and executive director of the Canadian Association of Credit Counselling Services, which represents the non-profit side of the industry, said the for-profit side is predatory and hurts people at their most desperate.

“Unsuspecting consumers can be left with more debt, less money and a bad credit rating as debt settlement companies obfuscate around issues and fail to negotiate settlements while pocketing huge up-front fees,” Ross said in an email to QP Briefing upon the bill’s introduction. “Consumer complaints about these services are mounting with these consumers increasingly coming to credit counselling services for help.”

The Ontario Association of Solvency and Restructuring Professionals, which represents bankruptcy trustees, doesn’t see much value in any form of debt settlement.

Only federally licensed bankruptcy trustees can actually stop collection calls, and despite common perception, a large majority of their cases don’t result in bankruptcy at all, said board member Jordan Rumanek. About 60 per cent of debtors who come to his family firm end up settling their debt with a proposal to creditors, he said.

“What we believe is happening right now is that the debt settlement companies are operating in such a way that I’m not allowed to operate,” Rumanek said, referring to misleading ads and promised cure-alls.

“No other business would be taking money without doing work.”

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Consumer Proposal: Alternative to the ‘B word’

Consumer Proposal

Consumer Proposal: Alternative to the ‘B Word’

Edmonton Sun BriaN DalY –  Sun Media e-edition 26 Oct 2013 

MONTREAL — Increasing numbers of insolvent Canadians are opting for a relatively new alternative to bankruptcy that allows them to keep their home and cars.

Consumer proposals, first made available in the early 1990s, are on the rise, according to a recent report by Industry Canada. Under a consumer proposal, a trustee pays creditors a percentage of what’s owed, and the debtor pays back the trustee, interest-free.

Toronto-based trustee Jordan Rumanek tells QMI Agency that most Canadians aren’t aware they can avert bankruptcy while still settling their debts. “Once they find out it exists, most people, if they’re financially able, would like to do the proposals before the bankruptcy — because nobody likes the B word,” he said.

A consumer proposal hangs an R9 credit score on the debtor, equivalent to bankruptcy, but the black mark is erased more quickly. Another big attraction is that clients avoid the repo man.

“People are thinking ‘I’m going to lose my house,’ and that’s not the case in a proposal,” Rumanek said.

But consumer proposals aren’t for everyone. There’s no guarantee that creditors will accept a trustee’s offer, and clients must be capable of making the monthly repayments.

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What are my responsibilities once bankrupt?

What are my responsibilities once bankrupt?

What are my responsibilities once bankrupt?

When you start borrowing money, purchasing goods on credit or credit cards, incurring credit it is an offense unless you inform the person or company you are dealing with that you are an undischarged bankrupt.

If you have any changes in your financial circumstances (e.g. name, address, phone number, change of employment, salary, dependants, etc.) you will need to notify your Trustee immediately.

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